tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post6002690759601950537..comments2024-03-21T22:23:54.433+01:00Comments on One Hundred Mountains: “Above the clouds”Project Hyakumeizanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-54435168977279681592013-06-18T18:13:19.550+02:002013-06-18T18:13:19.550+02:00Many thanks for that observation, Iain. Confirms m...Many thanks for that observation, Iain. Confirms my impression that the Japanese Alpine Club has all the best connections....Project Hyakumeizanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-24245883942384145932013-06-18T09:26:13.660+02:002013-06-18T09:26:13.660+02:00For any Chichibu fans living in Tokyo, I saw last ...For any Chichibu fans living in Tokyo, I saw last week that there is a Chichibu ice axe in the lobby of the Japan Alpine Club.Iainhwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593667640067919728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-16048930310343748652010-12-24T13:28:42.735+01:002010-12-24T13:28:42.735+01:00Hey there,
I have to admit, I don't share the...Hey there,<br /><br />I have to admit, I don't share the same enthusiasm for Japanese history, but I really enjoyed the mixture of material you have here.<br /><br />I didn't realise the history of Japanese alpinism - it has quite a deep heritage. The historical shots are great too, which compliment the matieral well. And them there are the modern, colour ones to top it off.<br /><br />Great to be able to pick up information on mountaineering in a different country.<br /><br />Keep it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-78386244906354372912010-12-17T10:57:45.566+01:002010-12-17T10:57:45.566+01:00Peter: yes, Prince Chichibu is a very interesting,...Peter: yes, Prince Chichibu is a very interesting, complex and engaging character - a blog posting that restricts itself to his mountaineering feats can hardly do him justice, alas.<br /><br />Kittie: itsumo, itsumo o-sewa ni narimasu... I trust you will have a very happy Christmas and O-shogatsu.<br /><br />Anoymous: very glad that you followed up the reference to Death March on Mt Hakkoda and found it profitable. In due course, I'll post a review of the book. It deserves a wider audience. As you say, it's much more than just another mountain book.Project Hyakumeizanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-46280515846541017352010-12-17T02:19:32.543+01:002010-12-17T02:19:32.543+01:00When you have a chance, I've a little somethin...When you have a chance, I've a little something for you at my blog.Kittie Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07756250649095903317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-12976750084066497172010-12-16T18:10:43.475+01:002010-12-16T18:10:43.475+01:00This article encouraged me to seek out and read De...This article encouraged me to seek out and read Death March on Mt. Hakkoda - which I surprisingly discovered at my local rural library.<br />Neither my wife (who was born in Japan's mikan-growing south west) nor myself (who once lived in Japan for several years) had ever heard of this tragic incident.<br />Neither of us are big fans of the military history genre but this historical account of leadership, perseverance and adventure gone awry kept us riveted all weekend.<br />One of the best reads I've come across in a while; it's a mountain classic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-76202573288176416662010-12-14T13:26:57.880+01:002010-12-14T13:26:57.880+01:00Yet another interesting read. I couldn't help ...Yet another interesting read. I couldn't help but feel an affinity for Prince Chichibu, both because he was represented as a mountaineer in his statue and because his name was derived from the mountains I see on my way to work when the weather permits.Peter Skovhttp://www.projectsanmyaku.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-71094094073204094802010-11-29T15:02:53.384+01:002010-11-29T15:02:53.384+01:00Hi
I'm back from Kobe and just found your comm...Hi<br />I'm back from Kobe and just found your comment. I'll post about egrets maybe in December. <br />As for the Naniwa court or Naniwa-no-miya(難波宮), it existed both in the Asuka period and the Nara period too. You know ancient emperors frequently relocated the capital. As you say, Emperor Nintoku(仁徳)and his father Ojin(応神)and so on in the 4th century lived at Naniwa. After the Yamato clan moved to the Nara plain, Emperor Kotoku(孝徳)in the Asuka period relocated the capital to Naniwa in 645 again and Emperor Shomu (聖武)relocated the capital to Naniwa in 726 again. The 726's Naniwa palace was perhaps a detached palace, though. The history of the Naniwa Palaces(more than 2) is very complicated...☆sapphirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13444996989089740303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-49383767003602368862010-11-26T19:20:25.660+01:002010-11-26T19:20:25.660+01:00Sapphire: 勉強したのは私こそ。。。That's a fascinating poi...Sapphire: 勉強したのは私こそ。。。That's a fascinating point you raise about Emperor Jomei's choka - that it is the only one in the Manyoshu to mention gulls. I wonder whether that's because it dates from early times, when the Yamato clan still lived at Naniwa, close to the sea. After the capital moved to the Nara plain, I guess everybody forgot what a gull looked like. Myself, I remember with affection those egrets that fly up from the reeds around the mysterious lakes surrounding the kofun burial mounds.... Are they in the choka too, I wonder? Perhaps you could treat us to a short disquisition on birds in the Manyoshu one day soon on your excellent blog....Project Hyakumeizanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-51463149916102557582010-11-26T16:03:03.778+01:002010-11-26T16:03:03.778+01:00Thanks so much for this excellent post!! I didn...Thanks so much for this excellent post!! I didn't know about the details of the adventures Prince Higashikuni and Prince Chichibu had in their younger days. I've learned much from you!! One of the things I found interesting is the Choka(長歌)-poem that Emperor Jyomei wrote in the 7th century. Do you know this poem is the only one that has "gulls" or "kamome" as a motif in the Manyo-shu? Meanwhile, plovers are frequently featured in it...☆sapphirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13444996989089740303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-16250877228983205392010-11-24T18:47:33.616+01:002010-11-24T18:47:33.616+01:00Iain: when it comes to other ascents of the Matter...Iain: when it comes to other ascents of the Matterhorn by famous people, the Time article about Prince Chichibu also mentions the Matterhorn traverse (in the opposite direction) by one Abate Achille Ratti - who later became Pope Pius XI. So there's one for you...<br /><br />Wes: when it comes to risk management, the Imperial Household Agency will doubtless be aware of the tragic case of King Albert of Belgium, who was killed in a fall when climbing alone on the "Roche du Vieux Bon Dieu" at Marche-les-Dames in the Meuse valley near Namur. By then, he was almost sixty and had packed a good amount of mountaineering into his life, despite other distractions such as personally leading his army in the country's defence at the start of WW1. You can read an account of his alpine feats here:-<br /><br />http://www.king-albert.ch/html/king/palmares.html<br /><br />A tragic end, to be sure, but what an inspiring life...Project Hyakumeizanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-21252153208918405342010-11-24T10:51:06.527+01:002010-11-24T10:51:06.527+01:00nice info and excellent photos of Kaimon as well. ...nice info and excellent photos of Kaimon as well. Glad you had good weather and wow, what a shadow!<br /><br />I wonder if the crown prince is allowed in the Daikiretto or up the popular route up Tsurugi? I can't see the Imperial Household Agency feeling too comfortable with the future emperor climbing dangerous routes!weshttp://tozantales.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-89022952885267571812010-11-23T21:58:48.406+01:002010-11-23T21:58:48.406+01:00Great posting. That was the first I'd heard o...Great posting. That was the first I'd heard of TB being a problem in the IJA. Also interesting to see some of Chichibu Swiss ascents, particularly the Matterhorn. Last summer in the alpine museum in Zermatt I saw that F Roosevelt also climbed it which got me wondering how many other famous or notable people have made the ascent.Iainhwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593667640067919728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-79256127224770904542010-11-23T21:23:51.290+01:002010-11-23T21:23:51.290+01:00Kitty - many thanks for stopping by, and for retur...Kitty - many thanks for stopping by, and for returning Martin Frobisher to us Limeys. By the way, we could also - at a stretch - lay claim to Princess Chichibu, who was born in Walton-on-Thames, owing to her father's being posted to England as a diplomat. Yes, her English was exceedingly fluent - she went to a Quaker school in Washington - a happy experience, she records in her memoirs...Project Hyakumeizanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-31121664433040022722010-11-23T21:09:12.909+01:002010-11-23T21:09:12.909+01:00Arthur's right: Excellent post! Really enjoye...Arthur's right: Excellent post! Really enjoyed the history. I knew the Crown Princess spoke English (her marriage was the center of much positive attention in the States), so may I assume the earlier Prince's wife also spoke English (as her father was the ambassador to Washington)? I think the Japanese know us better than we know them!<br /><br />By the way, the Raising Literacy award I passed on to you is probably the most coveted in Blogville...not that it's necessary to post these awards, heavens, no...but I wanted you to know that your blog is one of the most outstanding around, with something for everyone. Have you considered grouping posts into a book, either hardback or e-book?<br /><br />I wondered if anyone would comment about Frobisher's nationality. I paused a bit before I typed Canadian...all sources designated him as such; however, as you correctly pointed out, there was no Canada then. I think it's only fair you Limeys claim Frobisher (apparently he was a good guy!)<br /><br />As for the first Pilgrims, what a mess! If that rogue group hadn't landed so close, perhaps the 102 would've faded into obscurity. Now we've got preachers on every corner! Oy! Oy!Kittie Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07756250649095903317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-56291272089765843012010-11-23T18:39:27.636+01:002010-11-23T18:39:27.636+01:00Arthur, thanks for reading. As for the late Meiji/...Arthur, thanks for reading. As for the late Meiji/early Taisho mountain kit list, you'll find it in Walter Weston's book on Mountaineering and Exploration in Japan in Chapter XVI (page 317ff) "Hints on outfit, provisions etc". Much recommended. It begins ..."With regard to dress, a Norfolk jacket with plenty of pockets and loose knickerbockers of a strong grey flannel will be found serviceable ..." Footwear in Japan was either nailed boots (British style) or waraji: both had their advantages and disadvantages. Judging by the photos of the Princes on Yari and Tateyama, that was more or less how they were equipped a couple of decades after Weston....<br /><br />Sunnybeauty: well, Matsudaira Setsuko, the future Princess Chichibu, was fairly upper crust for a commoner - the family belonged to the Aizu branch of the Tokugawas and had been temporarily eclipsed by being on the wrong side during the civil war. But, as you see, they bounced back.... Why don't you read "The Silver Drum" (in the original Japanese, of course). I'm sure you would like it....Project Hyakumeizanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04260637418886330553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-68435446296460418542010-11-23T04:02:35.055+01:002010-11-23T04:02:35.055+01:00It is a very interesting history.
I didn't k...It is a very interesting history. <br /><br />I didn't know Hironomiya, the Crown Prince, had an uncle who was a mountaineer. I wonder if Hironomiya was attracted to Chichibu-no-miya's way of life and his relationship to his wife, and married to the diplomat, Princess Masako. Unfortunately, Chichibu-no-miya's wife was strongly against a commoner getting married to a member of the emperor's family, though she was originally a commoner, too. (She was adopted by a noble uncle before her marriage.) If Chichibu-no-miya's wife had been a great supporter of a commoner's marrige to nobles, it would have been a great encouragement for Prince Hironomiya and Princess Masako.sunnybeautyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12674968432555807898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7618037172759094056.post-8080309946078829462010-11-23T00:57:17.061+01:002010-11-23T00:57:17.061+01:00Excellent post. I really like the history present...Excellent post. I really like the history presented here. It is fascinating how the upper crust and royalty spent so much time in Europe in the the early 1900's. <br />Also curious about the kit that those oldtimers wore on the mountains. Nowadays there is so much discussion of different fabrics and insulations, not to mention the endless issue of shoe designs. What did they wear back then?arthurnoreply@blogger.com